Pokemon Black 2 & Pokemon White 2 Discussion Thread

This thread is for discussion of the possible third Unova game and enhanced B/W with the hints, clues and possible future news (rhyming still ftw) and of course your hopes and theories as to what will be in it.

Games announced.

Pokemon Black 2 and Pokemon White 2 are due for release June 2012 in Japan.

Movie 15 Poster featuring Kyurem formes and Meloetta

Early info: 6/21

SPOILER WARNING

Quote from: Serebii

In The Games Department
Pokémon Black 2 & White 2

As per the last releases, several users on the Japanese forum, 2ch, have started to receive their copies and are to post new information they find within it. We'll be posting the information as it comes while we await our own copies to be delivered. At the moment, it's unlikely we'll receive anything new due to the reveal in Dengeki magazine but the moment we do get something, it'll be posted here so keep checking back. Out of respect for those not wishing to be spoiled, it's hidden in a Spoiler Tag

05:21 First, we have a clear map of the new look Unova region
05:28; It's confirmed that the capability of selecting multiple Pokémon in the box is back
06:06; You have to participate in PokéWood after defeating Homika
06:26; Other information. You can use the Xtransceiver to call various characters. Your mother will tell you information about your current location, Professor Juniper will rate your Pokédex, Bianca will tell you the happiness of your party and Cheren will tell you about the types and abilities of the Pokémon in your party
06;35; Default name for the Rival is confirmed as Hyu/Hugh (ヒュウ )
06:42; Aesthetic version change. HP/EXP area in battle is Black in Black 2 & White in White 2
06:46; Burgh's team:

Level 22 Swadloon, Level 22 Dwebble, Level 24 Leavanny
07:25; Gym Leaders may not be at their gyms when you first get there
07:33; Elesa's team:

Level 28 Emolga, Level 28 Flaaffy, Level 30 Zebstrika
07:41; Battle Subway

You need to battle the Subway Masters to enter the Battle Subway
07:47; The Female Character's default name is Mei (メイ )
07:53; You receive Cut, Fly and Strength by Nimbasa City
08:00 The World Tournament is based in Driftveil City where the Freezer Containers were
08:06; Like previously, there are forced Rotation Battles in Pokémon Black 2. You battle Biker Charles again
08:17; There's a move tutor in Drifveil City. He teaches a variety of moves; Gunk Shot, Ice Punch, Fire Punch, Thunderpunch, Low Kick, Dual Chop, Seed Bomb, Uproar, Super Fang, Iron Head, Signal Beam, Bounce, Drill Run,, Bug Bite & Covet. These cost Shards to teach
08:25; There appears to be an encounter with the old Team Plasma sages
08:28; Gift

You get given a Zorua owned by N. It is #151 in the Unova Dex and is at Level 25
08:45; Clay's team:

Level 31 Krokorok, Level 31 Sandslash, Level 33 Excadrill
08:46; It seems you can change between Black City & White Forest in your game by using the Unova Link feature and connecting with Black & White. You can do this repeatedly, but not if you are in the area
08:52; World Tournament now houses the Move Relearner/Deleter
09:00: You need to enter into the World Tournament where you meet Achroma in the final
09:22; You seem to get a Deerling with its Hidden Ability; Serene Grace, within the game. It's Level 30 and female
09:36; Some old Pokémon in the routes; Budew, Roselia, Baltoy, Nosepass, Cleffa, Combee, Castform
Ratatta, Grimer, and Zubat also available
09:52; The other gendered character will appear at the Battle Subway and is called Kyouhei
10:09; Evolution stones can be purchased using BP earned from Battle Subway and World Tournament. They are sold for 3BP while other items such as Scope Lens, Wide Lens and Muscle Brace sell for 8BP 10:17; Skyla's team:

Level 37 Swoobat, Level 37 Skarmory, Level 39 Swanna
10:26; It is said that after completing the game, you receive a key which will switch the game between three difficulties. Normal, Assist which lowers the difficulty and Challenge which increases it. We have no confirmation for this yet 10;34; A new feature of the Random Matchup and Tournaments prevents you from battling for a while if you disconnect on your opponent
10:45; More Move Tutors: Last Resort, Iron defense, Magnet Rise, Magic Coat, Block, Hyper Voice, Electroweb, Icy Wind, Iron Tail, Aqua Tail, Earth Power, Zen Headbutt, Foul Play, Superpower, Gravity, Dragon Pulse and Dark Pulse. Cost Blue Shards
11:05; Bianca appears, referencing the Pokémon Heatran
11:22; Cobalion is, as expected, found in the game near Undella Town
11:42; You can find an area with a Minccino with its Hidden Ability of Skill Link. It is found at Level 20 and is 109 in the Unova Dex and is found in the Hidden Burrow
11:49: Virizion is also randomly found in Unova on Route 11
11:51: Terrakion also confirmed to just be sitting in Unova
11:59; At some point, you battle a heavily underlevelled Volcarona, at Level 35
12:00; TM95, Snarl, which was hidden in Black & White, appears to be available at some point in Black 2 & White 2
12:10; Drayden team:

Level 46 Druddigon, Level 46 Flygon, Level 48 Haxorus
12:15; The player has now discovered that Unova is in fact frozen in various areas
12:20: First picture of Frozen Unova
12:35: The Shadow Triad can be battled
12:40: Virizion remains where it is when the region is frozen. Not all parts get totally covered
12:53; New Move Tutor. Gives moves for Yellow Shards; Bind, Snore, Heal Bell, Knock Off, Synthesis, Roost, Sky Attack, Role Play, Heat Wave, Giga Drain, Drain Punch, Pain Split & Tailwind
13:06; Shizui's team:

Level 49 Carracosta, Level 49 Wailord, Level 51 Jellicent
13:11; Shizui gives Scald
13:14; Other wild Pokémon: Absol, Banette, Drapion, Seviper, Drifblim, Sneasel, Mantine, Altaria, Starmie
13:49; Another Move Tutor: Magic Room, Wonder Room, Spite, Recycle, Trick, Stealth Rock, Endeavor, Skill Swap, Worry Seed, Gastro Acid, Outrage, Helping Hand, After You, Endeavor, Sleep Talk, Snatch
14:12; Lunar Wing is obtained within this game.
14:23; Iris is found in Castelia City
14:23: Achroma is confirmed as a Plasma Boss
14:26; Achroma's team: Magneton Level 50, Magnezone Level 50, Metang Level 50, Beeheeyem Level 50, Klinklang Level 52
14:35; Latias is shown to be in the game, found in the Dreamyard
14:42; Regigigas is also set to appear
14:43; Ghetsis' Team: Cofagrigus Lv. 50, Eelektross Lv. 50, Drapion Lv. 50, Toxicroak Lv. 50, Seismitoad Lv. 50, Hydreigon Lv. 52
14:44; Kyurem is found at Level 55
14:56; Castelia City has sewers, which are filled with Zubat and Rattata
15:14; Elite Four Member (Ghost-type): Cofagrigus Lv. 56, Drifblim Lv. 56, Golurk Lv. 56, Chandelure Lv. 58
15:16; Elite Four Member (Dark-type); Liepard Lv. 56, Scrafty Lv. 56, Krookodile Lv. 56, Bisharp Lv. 58
15:18; Elite Four Member (Psychic-type); Musharna Lv. 56, Sigilyph Lv. 56, Reuniclus Lv. 56, Gothitelle Lv. 58
15:20; Elite Four Member (Fighting-type); Throh Lv. 56, Sawk Lv. 56, Mienshao Lv. 56, Conkeldurr Lv. 58
15:28; Champion Iris; Hydreigon Lv. 57, Druddigon Lv. 57, Aggron Lv. 57, Archeops Lv. 57, Lapras Lv. 57 Haxorus Lv. 59
15:54; Achroma, when first battled, has got Klink and a Mangeton
16:11; The player can also receive N's Sigilyph
16:46; There's a building called the "Strange House". It's unusually empty
16:56; New Town; Yamaji Town (ヤマジタウン)
17:00; Wild Eevee can be found within Castelia City. This is done in a small park area. The area also houses Buneary, Rattata, Pidove, Cottonee and Petilil
17:04; You battle your Rival and Cheren in the World Tournament when you're first there. Cheren has a Stoutland, Watchog & Cinccino. Achroma has Magneton, Klink and Elgyem
17:08; Uxie can be found in the game
17:40; There's a Triple Battle within Chargestone Cave
18:02; Juniper will give you the Master Ball in Mistralton City
19:03; Elite Four Rematches
Elite Four Member (Ghost-type): Cofagrigus Lv. 72, Mismagius Lv. 72, Froslass Lv. 72, Drifblim Lv. 72, Golurk Lv. 72, Chandelure Lv. 74
Elite Four Member (Dark-type); Liepard Lv. 72, Houndoom Lv. 72, Scrafty Lv. 72, Honchkrow Lv. 72, Krookodile Lv. 72, Bisharp Lv. 74
Elite Four Member (Psychic-type); Musharna Lv. 72, Sigilyph Lv. 72, Reuniclus Lv. 72, Gothitelle Lv. 72, Gallade Lv. 72, Metagross Lv. 74
Elite Four Member (Fighting-type); Throh Lv. 72, Sawk Lv. 72, Mienshao Lv. 72, Medicham Lv. 72, Lucario Lv. 72, Conkeldurr Lv. 74
Champion Iris; Hydreigon Lv. 76, Druddigon Lv. 76, Aggron Lv. 76, Archeops Lv. 76, Lapras Lv. 76 Haxorus Lv. 78
19:06; Lenora is said to revive your fossils
19:21; Alder is battleable; Accelgor Lv. 60, Escavalier Lv. 60, Bouffalant Lv. 60, Conkeldurr Lv. 60, Braviary Lv. 60 & Volcarona Lv. 62
19:27; Cresselia is Level 68 on the Marvelous Bridge after obtaining the Lunar Wing
19:31; Numerous skyscrapers and areas within Black City
19:35; Have to battle through the skyscraper in Black City to fight Alder's grandson
20:00; The previous game's playable character is out looking for N
20;27; After the end of the game, you will meet up with N
20:33; N will battle you and has a Level 70 Zekrom (in Black 2)
20:40; In a random tree, you are able to find wild Amoonguss with their Hidden Ability of Regenerator
20:56; After not being able to be captured earlier, you can get Kyurem at Level 70. It can know Fusion Bolt/Fusion Flare depending on the form
21:12; There's a Triple Battle with a member of GameFreak. Their Pokémon are Level 68 (Skarmory and Kingdra shown)
21:13; To get Kyurem, you have to meet N in his Castle by Victory Road. Then, go to Dragonspiral Tower and capture Zekrom/Reshiram. Go to Giant Chasm and meet Kyurem and it will challenge after the two are united
21:17; An image of White Kyurem after its initial unification with N's Reshiram earlier in the game
21:21; Latios also confirmed for Dreamyard indicating potential version exclusivity. Latios is confirmed for Black 2
21:49; Elite Four Rematch - Challenge Mode
Elite Four Member (Ghost-type): Cofagrigus Lv. 77, Gengar Lv. 77, Froslass Lv. 77, Drifblim Lv. 77, Golurk Lv. 77, Chandelure Lv. 79
Elite Four Member (Dark-type); Tyranitar Lv. 77, Houndoom Lv. 77, Scrafty Lv. 77, Honchkrow Lv. 77, Krookodile Lv. 77, Bisharp Lv. 79
Elite Four Member (Psychic-type); Musharna Lv. 77, Alakazam Lv. 77, Reuniclus Lv. 77, Gothitelle Lv. 77, Gallade Lv. 77, Metagross Lv. 79
Elite Four Member (Fighting-type); Throh Lv. 77, Sawk Lv. 77, Mienshao Lv. 77, Machamp Lv. 77, Lucario Lv. 77, Conkeldurr Lv. 79<
21:53: Champion Iris; Hydreigon Lv. 81, Salamence Lv. 81, Aggron Lv. 81, Archeops Lv. 81, Lapras Lv. 81 Haxorus Lv. 83
22:06; Regirock is found in the game at Level 65
22:08; Among the Pokémon of N's you receive in the game (in addition to Zorua and Sigilyph), it seems you can also receive a Pidove which is found in Pinwheel Forest
22:14; Jellicent with their Hidden Ability can also be found within the game
00:08; Latios/Latias are found to be Level 68 on capture. Latias is found in the Dreamyard in Black 2 and Latios is found in White 2's.
06:10; It is said that Unova Gym Leaders do appear within the World Tournament. Drayden, Brycen and Shizui have been noted. It's currently unknown if their teams are completely set
Team Spoilers

Drayden: Haxorus, Altaria & Druddigon
Brycen: Cryogonal, Dewgong & Vanilluxe
Shizui: Jellicent, Mantine, Wailord
06:14; You earn 1BP from Unova Gym Leaders, 2BP from Kanto Gym Leaders
06:28; World Tournament features:
Driftveil Tournament - All Pokémon at Level 25
Rental Tournament - Pokémon are randomly chosen for you, akin to the Battle Factory
Mix Tournament - All Pokémon at Level 50, can switch a Pokémon with your opponent before combat
Unova Leaders - Battle Unova Gym Leaders at Level 50
In one of the modes Roxanne, the Gym Leader of Rustboro City, is battlable
06:38; The Battle Skyscraper in Black City has you go through the rooms, battling trainer after trainer until you defeat the Boss. You can pass to the next room and have your Pokémon healed
06:50; More World Tournament modes unlocked World Leaders - Battle Leaders and Champions from around the world
Rental Master - Another rental battle system, but with rarer and stronger Pokémon
06:55; Type Expert is another of the World Tournament modes.
06:58; Trainers in the Battle Skyscraper will have Pokémon such as Entei
07:04; Back to the World Tournament, after participating in a certain amount of battles in the World Leaders tournament, you then unlock the Champion's Tournament
07:22; Alder's Grandson, Banjiro confirmed in Black Skyscraper
07:28; Banjiro's Team

Latios Lv.80, Garchomp Lv. 80, Volcarona Lv. 80
07:35; Banjiro's Team is Level 85 in Challenge Mode
07:39; You get given a Gible after defeating Banjiro
08:27; More World Tournament teams - Team Spoilers

Green(Blue) - Machamp, Arcanine, Exeggutor
Alder - Volcarona, Chandelure, Reuniclus
Steven - Metagross, Archeops, Excadrill
08:39; An Image of Champions; Red, Blue, Steven, Alder, Cynthia, Lance & Wallace
08:46; More World Tournament teams - Team Spoilers

Cynthia - Garchomp, Togekiss, Roserade
Alder (another set, they seem to use three of a random selection) - Volcarona, Braviary, Conkeldurr
Lance - Dragonite, Flygon, Kingdra
09:11; Defeating Unova Leaders unlocks the other region tournaments (Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh). Then, completion of the other region Leaders opens up World Leaders, which merges them all. After that, beat World Leaders to access the Champion Tournament
09:13; The Stranger's House is located in the middle of Marveous Bridge. At a certain spot, you will be removed and taken to the house where you will get the Lunar Wing
10:10; The Underwater Ruins make a return with a similar layout as before. Like before, there are ancient treasures within which can be exchanged for items
11:08; Mesprit confirmed for the game. It's Level 65. It's at the top of the Celestial Tower following a request to search for them by Professor Juniper
16;14; As soon as you enter Virbank City, you see Roxie and her father arguing as per the CoroCoro shots last month
16:19; In Roxie's Gym, you have to battle the Band Members first before she'll fight you
16:51; Rival, Roxie and you face off against Team Plasma at Virbank's docks. Once you've defeated them, they'll run to Route 20 but Roxie gives you TM01. Defeat them in Route 20, and return to Virbank. Roxie's father will take you and your rival to Castelia on his boat
16:53; You are given the Bicycle by a clown as soon as you enter the main part of Castelia
17:07; As you approach Burgh's Gym, Iris will talk to you about Team Plasma. You can also go to Liberty Garden immediately but apart from a few NPCs, it's empty
17;16; Iris leads you to the easternmost pier and asks you to go into the sewer. Your rival follows. Your rival joins you in the sewer and will participate in Double Battles. Burgh appears in the sewer after you defeat some Plasma grunts You get HM01 after taking out the grunts and Achroma appears
17:20; Burgh's Gym is pretty cool. It's a maze of multiple stories of silk which can suck you up, taking you up and/or down
17:53; As you leave for Route 4, Bianca appears and gives the Itemfinder and there's a cave beyond the sewers in Castelia. The little plant area in Castelia City is accessed by the sewer and is where you will find Pokémon such as Eevee
18:00: As you expect, Route 4's construction is finished. Achroma is there with the rointernet explorer of Crustle, which he dispells. He battles you. Team as seen yesterday; Magnemite and Klink
18:04; North-eastmost city is Seigaiha City and is connected to Undella via the Marine Tube. There's also a cave called Rebirth Mountain
18:11; Join Avenue connects Route 4 to Nimbasa City
18;15;Once in Nimbasa City, you and the opposite Gender challenge Ingo & Emmet. They have Gurdurr and Boldore each, at Level 26
18:25; Elesa's old Gym has got people in it, some of whom will battle you. Puzzle is same as before. Follow through to the end and a trainer will give you an item and you can enter the new Gym . In the new gym, you walk along a catwalk, getting stopped by trainers
18:46; Plasma terrorising the Rival after he complains about them stealing his sister's Purrloin. Battle them . You get TM95: Snarl, by going to Lostlorn Forest. A backpacker will ask you about Zoroark and will give you the TM
18:54; When you enter Route 5, Bianca will appear and give you Fly, she'll then notice something and take you up to the trees where the Minccino with its Hidden Ability exists.
19:04; You meet new Plasma and Old Plasma on the bridge, arguing until the rival comes in, causing new Plasma to flee. Go up to the house in the north of town and one of the Sages will battle you. He has Herdier Lv. 27 and Swoobat Lv. 27
19:29; Clay's Gym is a conveyor belt puzzle this time, in the dark with some platforms going up 20:00; Entering the World Tournament now. It has Rival, Cheren, Achroma and some random trainers in, but it's fixed.
Rival: Starter Lv. 25, Tranquill Lv. 25, Chimp weak to you Lv. 25
Cheren: Stoutland Lv. 25, Watchog Lv. 25, Cinccino Lv. 25
Achroma: Magneton Lv. 25, Elgyem Lv. 25, Klink Lv. 25
20:20; After you leave, a Plasma Grunt runs past, with the Rival making haste to get Purrloin back. Cheren joins him southwards to some docks and onto the boat, as per the trailer. You end up teaming with both Cheren and Rival in seperate battles against Plasma Grunts. After defeating the grunts, the Shadow Triad appear and drag you from the area
20;31; Get to Route 6 and Cheren will show you to the Weather Institute (where all Deerling still are after BW!). Cheren will give you Surf. You can then get a Deerling with its Hidden Ability of Serene Grace. I was walking over a bridge in Route 6 and Cobalion jumped out, then ran away. One of the sages then arrived and noted its backstory
20:48; The Mistralton Gym, as seen in the trailer, has you have to navigate a load of paths over the ground while being blown back by the wind
21:22; After you leave the Gym, Skyla mentions that she hasn't heard from Juniper so heads in the eastern direction
21:37; Professor Juniper is found within Celestial Tower where she'll give you a Lucky Egg. A man in Route 7 will show you Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus for your Pokédex. Marshall is outside of Twist Mountain and won't let you in until you've beaten the League
21:42; Returning to Mistralton City, you need to meet Skyla and Juniper in the Airport. They will aid you in your quest and will take you via plane to Yamaji Town, a small town north of Black City/White Forest on top of a mountain
21:52; Next to Yamaji Town is Rebirth Mountain. In Rebirth Mountain, you'll team up with Bianca to get through it. She has a Musharna on her
22:13; Exiting Rebirth Mountain puts you right in Undella Town
22:18; Undergone redesign work, the Rival battles you in Undella Town: Unfezant Lv. 39, Starter final level 41, Fully Evolved Ape Lv. 39
22:32; Cobalion is in Route 13. It is Level 45
22:59; Virizion is on Route 11. It too is Level 45
23:18; Drayden's Gym runs a similar dragon puzzle as before, but instead you are climbing a massive dragon, fighting trainers on the way while Drayden is sitting on the head. You control your climb with a control on the head of the other dragon. It lights up in what way you can move
23:39; After you're done in the Gym, and listend to Drayden's stories of the Dragon Pokémon, the Team Plasma boat flies overhead and unleashes a cannon onto Opelucid City, freeezing the entire area completely over
23:50; Startling item discoveries thanks to bluesun
Shining Charm - A mysterious shining charm that when held, makes it easier to encounter shiny Pokemon.
Round Charm - A mysterious unbelievable charm that when held, makes it easier for the Daycare Man to find eggs. 00:01; Drayden has given me a key or something similar, and the Shadow Triad has appeared. I have to make chase.Battle 1 against Shadow Triad Dark; Pawniard Lv. 46, Pawniard Lv. 46, Absol Lv. 48
00:08; Cheren and the Rival have sent me to Undella Town, and through the Marine Tube. Like Sky Arrow Bridge, the perspective changes as you travel through it
00:16; The tunnel leads to Seigaiha City, the city where Shizui dwells and offers the Wave Badge. He's not at the Gym. Shizui will jump out of the water as you proceed through the city and return to the gym