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Title: Shin Megami Tensei Thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on January 31, 2012, 07:49:40 pm
Okay I just had to make this thread on January 31st..(If you played Persona 3 you would know what this means.)
Okay to start, What's your favorite Persona game?
Mine would have to be Persona 4.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on January 31, 2012, 08:04:39 pm
Can we make this thread into a general Shin Megami Tensei thread?
I haven't played any Persona sadly since I never owned any PS.
However, I played Shin Megaten DS and DS Overclocked. Plus that bad mmo Shin Megaten Imagine.

Also, I'm watching the Persona 4 anime! >:3

I love Atlus' universe. They're just so awesome. The Jack brothers are so cute too!


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on February 01, 2012, 12:03:14 am
Can we make this thread into a general Shin Megami Tensei thread?
I haven't played any Persona sadly since I never owned any PS.
However, I played Shin Megaten DS and DS Overclocked. Plus that bad mmo Shin Megaten Imagine.

Also, I'm watching the Persona 4 anime! >:3

I love Atlus' universe. They're just so awesome. The Jack brothers are so cute too!
I was thinking but idk, since while kinda in the same series they're different.

But what I was referring to with the date, was that in Persona 3 at the final boss takes place on the night of January 31st when Nyx brings the Fall to kill everyone, and when the MC sacrifices himself to seal her away.  :-\
EDIT:
Epic music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCCojZ3JTlI


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on February 01, 2012, 09:55:27 am
I was thinking but idk, since while kinda in the same series they're different.

It's the same universe.
Shin Megami Tensei series, Persona series, Megami Ibunroku series and even Catherine I think.
Devil Survivor isn't Shin Megaten although the US version says so. It's Megami Ibunroku.

Also, Shin Megami Tensei = True Goddess Reincarnation
And, Megami Ibunroku = Alternate Tale of the Goddess
And I think Persona may be part of Megami Ibunroku.

But it's fcked up a bit.

Anyway, same universe, same demons, same Atlus.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on February 01, 2012, 04:14:35 pm
It's the same universe.
Shin Megami Tensei series, Persona series, Megami Ibunroku series and even Catherine I think.
Devil Survivor isn't Shin Megaten although the US version says so. It's Megami Ibunroku.

Also, Shin Megami Tensei = True Goddess Reincarnation
And, Megami Ibunroku = Alternate Tale of the Goddess
And I think Persona may be part of Megami Ibunroku.

But it's fcked up a bit.

Anyway, same universe, same demons, same Atlus.
Yeah I know that. If you really want it to be SMT thread I'll change it.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on February 01, 2012, 05:03:35 pm
Yeah I know that. If you really want it to be SMT thread I'll change it.

I don't really mind. o3o
Besides it's not too popular on here it seems.

I just wish people would know what amazing games Atlus makes!

Like, there were two games that were released almost at the same time that revolutionized RPG games.
The first Megami Tensei was one of them.
But it doesn't get the credit it should.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on February 03, 2012, 08:28:45 pm
I don't really mind. o3o
Besides it's not too popular on here it seems.

I just wish people would know what amazing games Atlus makes!

Like, there were two games that were released almost at the same time that revolutionized RPG games.
The first Megami Tensei was one of them.
But it doesn't get the credit it should.
I've only played SMT3 Nocturne and SMT Strange Journey.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on February 03, 2012, 08:54:13 pm
I've only played SMT3 Nocturne and SMT Strange Journey.

You should try Devil Survivor. It's the best SRPG I ever played. :D


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on February 03, 2012, 09:02:01 pm
You should try Devil Survivor. It's the best SRPG I ever played. :D
I played it once on an emu, but I didn't really get that far, I'm waiting for the 2nd one.
I've also played one of the Devil Summoner games, I'm not sure which one, I can't really remember.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on February 03, 2012, 09:07:55 pm
I played it once on an emu, but I didn't really get that far, I'm waiting for the 2nd one.
I've also played one of the Devil Summoner games, I'm not sure which one, I can't really remember.

I had the first one on Emu and bought the 'Overclocked' version on the 3DS since I liked it so much.
And this version has voice acting which makes it 10 times better. X3

I saw this Devil Summoner pic today lol.
(http://i.imgur.com/SW22T.jpg)


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on February 03, 2012, 09:21:17 pm
@Mag: Lol. Mothman always kinda creeped me out.

Is started playing Persona 2 Innocent Sin on PSP, it's pretty fun. It's more like the first Persona game than Persona 3 or 4.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on February 03, 2012, 09:28:56 pm
@Mag: Lol. Mothman always kinda creeped me out.

Is started playing Persona 2 Innocent Sin on PSP, it's pretty fun. It's more like the first Persona game than Persona 3 or 4.

Yeah me too. But it's kinda cute on this pic. Mix of love and disgust. XD

There's supposed to be a Persona game coming to the 3DS.
Maybe I'll finally be able to play one!
And there's P5 in development. I wonder if that's the one they'll release for the 3DS...


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on February 03, 2012, 09:33:02 pm
Yeah me too. But it's kinda cute on this pic. Mix of love and disgust. XD

There's supposed to be a Persona game coming to the 3DS.
Maybe I'll finally be able to play one!
And there's P5 in development. I wonder if that's the one they'll release for the 3DS...
If you don't have any PS, do you have an Xbox360?
You could play Catherine then, which is similar to Persona. (The main character actually shows up in Persona 3 Portable.)


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on February 03, 2012, 09:54:36 pm
If you don't have any PS, do you have an Xbox360?
You could play Catherine then, which is similar to Persona. (The main character actually shows up in Persona 3 Portable.)

I know about Catherine. I wanna play it so bad...
But never will an Xbox be in my possession!
I would rather die than get one. XD


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on February 16, 2012, 01:05:50 am
I started Persona, the first one.
I don't really get the negotiations though.
Nor do I get the stats. Like what they all do and everything. :/


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on February 16, 2012, 04:15:28 am
I started Persona, the first one.
I don't really get the negotiations though.
Nor do I get the stats. Like what they all do and everything. :/
Oh that one. What are you playing it on? I thought you didn't have any PS?
The negotiations are kinda messed up, sometimes you'll say something that makes sense due to their listed personality and it ends up making them angry.
I don't really like the stat spread in that game, only the char who does the most in the battle gets the most xp.
The first ones okay, but P2 improved. And I kinda prefer the P3&P4 style over both.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on February 16, 2012, 09:41:45 am
Oh that one. What are you playing it on? I thought you didn't have any PS?
The negotiations are kinda messed up, sometimes you'll say something that makes sense due to their listed personality and it ends up making them angry.
I don't really like the stat spread in that game, only the char who does the most in the battle gets the most xp.
The first ones okay, but P2 improved. And I kinda prefer the P3&P4 style over both.

I'm gonna play them all.
I kinda got an half dead PS2.
And that shop had Persona by some kinda miracle... XD
The controller stops working sometimes too...

So, then everything that was confusing me is normal. That's cool.

Are P3 and P4 dungeon crawlers too?


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on February 16, 2012, 08:56:07 pm
I'm gonna play them all.
I kinda got an half dead PS2.
And that shop had Persona by some kinda miracle... XD
The controller stops working sometimes too...

So, then everything that was confusing me is normal. That's cool.

Are P3 and P4 dungeon crawlers too?
You're playing the NA PS1 version? (The one where they changed the names of the characters to american names. XD)
I never finished it, the random encounter rate was just really high and it got frustrating.
Both P1 and P2 have identical battle systems but in P2 the dungeon crawling is in 3rd person rather than first, and I think it improved a lot. (Unfortunately, only P2 Eternal Punishment came out in NA on PS1, the one before it, P2 Innocent Sin, only just came out over here as a remake on PSP.)

And yeah P3 and P4 are dungeon crawlers too, in 3rd person. But the battle system is different and no random encounters. (Better, IMO. Like you pick the characters moves one at a time rather. It's kinda hard to explain, you need to see it.)
In P3 you have one huge dungeon with like 200 something floors, and at every full moon there is a boss battle. You go to the dungeon at night and after school you can choose what you want to do, like hang out with a friend to get their social link up (Each social link character has an Arcana and the higher their social link level is, the more bonus exp you'll get when you fuse a Persona of that Arcana.) or get your stats up etc.
P4 is similar in that you have a calendar and you go to school, social links and such. Except this time you have multiple dungeons in the TV world, that changes whenever someone is thrown in the TV, you then have before the the fog sets in to finish the dungeon, beat the boss and rescue the person.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on February 16, 2012, 09:05:01 pm
You're playing the NA PS1 version? (The one where they changed the names of the characters to american names. XD)
I never finished it, the random encounter rate was just really high and it got frustrating.
Both P1 and P2 have identical battle systems but in P2 the dungeon crawling is in 3rd person rather than first, and I think it improved a lot. (Unfortunately, only P2 Eternal Punishment came out in NA on PS1, the one before it, P2 Innocent Sin, only just came out over here as a remake on PSP.)

And yeah P3 and P4 are dungeon crawlers too, in 3rd person. But the battle system is different and no random encounters. (Better, IMO. Like you pick the characters moves one at a time rather. It's kinda hard to explain, you need to see it.)
In P3 you have one huge dungeon with like 200 something floors, and at every full moon there is a boss battle. You go to the dungeon at night and after school you can choose what you want to do, like hang out with a friend to get their social link up (Each social link character has an Arcana and the higher their social link level is, the more bonus exp you'll get when you fuse a Persona of that Arcana.) or get your stats up etc.
P4 is similar in that you have a calendar and you go to school, social links and such. Except this time you have multiple dungeons in the TV world, that changes whenever someone is thrown in the TV, you then have before the the fog sets in to finish the dungeon, beat the boss and rescue the person.

:o
The random encounter rate is quite annoying yes.
And the US names are monstrous.
And I don't have a map for the overworld which makes it too hard. q_q

So no Innocent sin? Bummer...

I'm familiar with the social link stuff that gets you arcanas. Since it's basically the same in the P4 anime.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on February 16, 2012, 09:40:49 pm
:o
The random encounter rate is quite annoying yes.
And the US names are monstrous.
And I don't have a map for the overworld which makes it too hard. q_q

So no Innocent sin? Bummer...

I'm familiar with the social link stuff that gets you arcanas. Since it's basically the same in the P4 anime.
Are you going to pick up the rest?


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on February 16, 2012, 10:14:00 pm
Are you going to pick up the rest?

Yes! >:O

I'm done with not playing them!


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on February 17, 2012, 07:08:34 pm
Yes! >:O

I'm done with not playing them!
I recommend getting Persona 3 first (Preferably Persona 3 FES which has extra stuff like a playable epilogue.) since playing Persona 4 then Persona 3 makes P3 look bad in comparison. (Unless it's Persona 3 Portable which adds a lot of gameplay stuff from P4, and a female MC option. But it lacks the epilogue from FES.)
Both games have REALLY good stories.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on February 17, 2012, 09:20:32 pm
I recommend getting Persona 3 first (Preferably Persona 3 FES which has extra stuff like a playable epilogue.) since playing Persona 4 then Persona 3 makes P3 look bad in comparison. (Unless it's Persona 3 Portable which adds a lot of gameplay stuff from P4, and a female MC option. But it lacks the epilogue from FES.)
Both games have REALLY good stories.

P3 FES is on PS2?

Also, I still want a PS3 because this PS2 is just complete mess. q_q
Do PS games work on PS3? XD

EDIT:
When I level up in Persona, some of my stats -and of the other characters- have a red line after the green line. When I increase those stats, it doesn't grow my HP or ATK or whatever.
Why is that?

Also, I have no idea what to increase so I was raising only TECHNIC like a n00b.
It increases my attacks and something like DOD or I dun remember...


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on February 18, 2012, 01:05:07 am
P3 FES is on PS2?

Also, I still want a PS3 because this PS2 is just complete mess. q_q
Do PS games work on PS3? XD

EDIT:
When I level up in Persona, some of my stats -and of the other characters- have a red line after the green line. When I increase those stats, it doesn't grow my HP or ATK or whatever.
Why is that?

Also, I have no idea what to increase so I was raising only TECHNIC like a n00b.
It increases my attacks and something like DOD or I dun remember...
P3, P3 FES, and P4 are on PS2.
P1, and P2 Innocent Sin have remakes on PSP, and also Persona 3 Portable. Then the PSVita is getting Persona 4 The Golden which adds new stuff like a new character. (Not sure about everything, as I haven't check any updates on it.)
PS1 games work on PS3, but only old rare PS3's can play PS2 games.

As for the Persona stat thing, I'm not sure I haven't played the game in a while. GameFaqs i guess. :S


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on February 18, 2012, 01:29:17 am
P3, P3 FES, and P4 are on PS2.
P1, and P2 Innocent Sin have remakes on PSP, and also Persona 3 Portable. Then the PSVita is getting Persona 4 The Golden which adds new stuff like a new character. (Not sure about everything, as I haven't check any updates on it.)
PS1 games work on PS3, but only old rare PS3's can play PS2 games.

As for the Persona stat thing, I'm not sure I haven't played the game in a while. GameFaqs i guess. :S

Wut? They play PS games but not PS2? D;

GameFaqs has nothing, almost nothing on the first Persona. ;_;
I checked IGN too but they don't have anything more.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on March 08, 2012, 09:17:21 pm
I love Devil Survivor 2.
The new UI is awesome and blue is refreshing after playing through the 1st one.
The Dubhe or whatever look awesome too.

And the changed the Race Skill Charm I guess.
It's now called Glamour but it still does the same.

The Race Skill of the Poltergeist is useful. Ghost Wounds.
Reduce opposing team's range to 1 and movement by half. Range: 3.
And the Extra Cancel Command Skill of Obariyon is beyond useful XD

I just started it since I finished DS Overclocked.
The Messiah route.
The 8th Day was amazing. I felt important, kinda. :D
Though the 7th Day was a pain... TOO MANY BOSS FIGHTS---!

Amazing games~


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on March 18, 2012, 10:15:06 pm
I'm loving the P4:A character themes. My favorite is Akihiko's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8stzdvrZTo

It sounds A LOT like "Unavoidable Battle" from P3 particularly in the beginning. (Akihiko's probably my favorite character.)


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on March 18, 2012, 11:29:47 pm
I'm loving the P4:A character themes. My favorite is Akihiko's

It sounds A LOT like "Unavoidable Battle" from P3 particularly in the beginning. (Akihiko's probably my favorite character.)

Arc System Works made P4:A? Awesome~


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on March 29, 2012, 11:52:25 pm
Doing a 3rd playthrough of P4. :P Kit Striker is an awesome name.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on April 12, 2012, 03:59:03 pm
Persona 3 FES for $9.99 on PSN! Great price, you should pick it up Mag.


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on April 12, 2012, 11:28:05 pm
Persona 3 FES for $9.99 on PSN! Great price, you should pick it up Mag.

I don't have a credit card.
And I can't get one either sadly. q_q


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on April 14, 2012, 03:41:10 pm
I don't have a credit card.
And I can't get one either sadly. q_q
PSN card?


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on April 18, 2012, 01:00:06 am
Playing P4 reminds how I like the characters, since they are like real people rather than typical anime sterotypes. (Never give up! Friendship! etc)

From favorite to least.

Yosuke
Chie
Kanji
Teddie
Naoto
Yukiko
Rise

While I'm at it P3 too.

Akihiko
Koromaru
Junpei
Aigis
Mitsuru
Shinjiro
Fuuka
Yukari
Ken


Title: Re: Persona thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on April 26, 2012, 12:37:38 am
PS2 SMT games on Amazon for 20$.

Digital Devil Saga
Digital Devil Saga 2
SMT 3: Nocturne
Persona 3 FES
Persona 4

Never be bored for a good while.

Minus P3 FES which you can get on PSN for $10, these are all really good deals. Especially Persona 4.


Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei Thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on May 14, 2012, 08:20:42 pm
I'll just leave this amazing here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzEoThKLKWQ

..More posting people


Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei Thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on May 31, 2012, 05:18:19 pm
Shin Megami Tensei IV has finally been announced for 3DS, I guess Strange Journey didn't count as SMT IV.


Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei Thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on May 31, 2012, 05:29:46 pm
Shin Megami Tensei IV has finally been announced for 3DS, I guess Strange Journey didn't count as SMT IV.

I heard Strange Journey was bad.
Make this one good Atlus!
More at E3? Hopefully.


Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei Thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on May 31, 2012, 05:33:06 pm
I heard Strange Journey was bad.
Make this one good Atlus!
More at E3? Hopefully.
Where'd you hear that? I only played a bit and well, it was just SMT, though the setting was different (Military instead of post apocalyptic Tokyo.)


Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei Thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on May 31, 2012, 08:47:01 pm
Where'd you hear that? I only played a bit and well, it was just SMT, though the setting was different (Military instead of post apocalyptic Tokyo.)

Woah~
Whatever. GameSpot rated it 6.0/10 saying it was repetitive and outdated.
IGN has an 8.5/10 and an 'Editor's Choice'. XD


Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei Thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on April 23, 2013, 10:15:34 am
GOD THIS GAME! FHIOWEHFIWHBFgF!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50wulf9wLAs


Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei Thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on May 16, 2013, 05:57:10 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rOWDD5LFCU


Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei Thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on July 07, 2013, 09:05:05 pm
Persona5.jp domain registered by Index Corporation!
Does this mean Atlus is nearing a reveal of P5?!
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/07/07/persona-5-domain-name-registered


Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei Thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Coyote Starrk on July 08, 2013, 02:01:33 pm
Persona5.jp domain registered by Index Corporation!
Does this mean Atlus is nearing a reveal of P5?!
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/07/07/persona-5-domain-name-registered
They've been talking about P5 for a long time. It's gonna be very dark and it's not gonna be about high schoolers but most likely college students or just people of college age dealing wiht life outside of high school, and it's gonna be on the PS4. Maybe even the PS3.


Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei Thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on July 08, 2013, 06:58:17 pm
They've been talking about P5 for a long time. It's gonna be very dark and it's not gonna be about high schoolers but most likely college students or just people of college age dealing wiht life outside of high school, and it's gonna be on the PS4. Maybe even the PS3.

I want it to be like P4G, only better.
Everything in P4G was perfect so they gotta be godlike this time.


Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei Thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on July 16, 2013, 08:52:20 pm
So SMT IV is totally awesome~
But it is rated M for masochistic.
Seriously, it's is SO hard! All the other SMT side games are nothing compared to it.
After you die a couple times, the game gives you the option of lowering the difficulty.
I did so right away. XD

The graphics are beautiful too. Even if it's on the freaking 3DS.


Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei Thread *Spoilers*
Post by: Magoo on September 26, 2013, 09:24:08 pm
They've been talking about P5 for a long time. It's gonna be very dark and it's not gonna be about high schoolers but most likely college students or just people of college age dealing wiht life outside of high school, and it's gonna be on the PS4. Maybe even the PS3.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/09/26/atlus-teaser-site-hints-at-persona-announcement-in-november

Official announcement possibly coming in November.
I hope it really is P5 and that they'll have something to show.